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Whose values should AI models align with: labs’ or users’?

A post questions whose values guide frontier labs’ AI alignment. A reply argues that some users want to do dangerous things.

Dan HendrycksDH
David SacksDS
David Krueger 🦥 ⏸️ ⏹️ ⏪DK
4 Sources, 11d ago, first seen 11d ago

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One post asks why frontier labs would align models to their own values rather than users’ values. A reply argues that some users want to do dangerous things. A separate quote post claims that seeking control in the name of alignment and safety can be a pretext for securing power for self-interest.

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David Sacks@DavidSacksWhen frontier labs talk of “aligning” models, ask: to what? If they say values, ask: whose? If it’s theirs rather than the user’s: why?11d
Beff (e/acc)@beffjezosSeeking control for alignment and safety is the perfect pretense to secure power for self-interest11d
David Krueger 🦥 ⏸️ ⏹️ ⏪@DavidSKrueger@DavidSacks Why? Because some users want to do dangerous things, duh. Do you want the AI to align with ISIS members?11d
Dan Hendrycks@hendrycks@DavidSacks11d
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    David Sacks@DavidSacksWhen frontier labs talk of “aligning” models, ask: to what? If they say values, ask: whose? If it’s theirs rather than the user’s: why?11d
    Beff (e/acc)@beffjezosSeeking control for alignment and safety is the perfect pretense to secure power for self-interest11d
    David Krueger 🦥 ⏸️ ⏹️ ⏪@DavidSKrueger@DavidSacks Why? Because some users want to do dangerous things, duh. Do you want the AI to align with ISIS members?11d
    Dan Hendrycks@hendrycks@DavidSacks11d
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