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An ‘eager to see this’ reaction to a quoted post

A user quote-posted another account and wrote, “Eager to see this.”

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David Krueger 🦥 ⏸️ ⏹️ ⏪DK
Tim O'ReillyTO
5 Sources, 11d ago, first seen 11d ago

TLDR

A user expressed anticipation about a quoted post, writing, “Eager to see this.”

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1.1K likes89 comments522 saves266 reposts

Combined views

155.7K

5 Sources, first seen 11d ago

1.1K likes89 comments522 saves266 reposts

Sentiment

Positive43.8%56.2%Negative

Summary

Positive replies backed wider democratic input into AI decisions on moral and societal grounds, while negative replies dismissed the idea as unrealistic given democracy's slowness and compute-driven realities.

Based on 56 sentiment-bearing replies from 51 accounts across 3 conversations.

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Sentiment

Positive43.8%56.2%Negative

Summary

Positive replies backed wider democratic input into AI decisions on moral and societal grounds, while negative replies dismissed the idea as unrealistic given democracy's slowness and compute-driven realities.

Based on 56 sentiment-bearing replies from 51 accounts across 3 conversations.

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David Krueger 🦥 ⏸️ ⏹️ ⏪@DavidSKruegerEager to see this11d
Daron Acemoglu@DAcemogluMITSecond question on AI. We are told repeatedly that AI is going to transform every aspect of our lives – jobs, productivity, inequality, science, communication, daily activities, social order, and politics, among others. But this promise (or threat) is coupled with the rhetoric that such an important technology, with all of the risks and competitive pressures that it entails, should be left to experts or to “technocracy” (perhaps construed broadly to include some regulators). These two statements are hard to reconcile in a democratic society. If anything is half as important as AI is said to be (and I agree, AI is potentially very important and transformative), then involving democratic voice is essential. If something will shape our future in a democratic society, then its direction is for democratic institutions to decide. My instinct is that democratic voice is essential, and relying too much on technocracy could be both dangerous and counterproductive. The counterargument that AI’s direction can and should be entrusted to technocracy would go something along the following lines. First, democratic decision-making has become imperiled in our age of polarization. Second, AI is sufficiently complex that most citizens won’t have a deep enough understanding to meaningfully contribute to the debate (and even to the question of what we want from AI). Third, competition between different labs, and perhaps competition between the US and China, creates enough discipline for a socially beneficial direction of AI to be adopted. Fourth, today’s AI leaders are enlightened and ethical enough that within the framework created by competition, they can be broadly trusted. There are many aspects of this counterargument that I do not find convincing. Taking them in order: polarization can be overcome, and big decisions and challenges sometimes bring societies together; in fact, delegating key decisions to technocracy without democratic input may diminish trust in institutions and experts, and may worsen polarization. Second, democratic voice does not require citizens to write code or design new models; the debate should be informative enough that citizens can weigh in about what type of future they want and how they trade off the costs and benefits of different options. Third, competition doesn’t seem to be a good disciplining framework; on the contrary, competition sometimes brings the worst out of both organizations and people. Fourth, if three decades of work on political economy and institutions has taught me anything, it is that we should not bank on the ethical grounding of unconstrained leaders. But, still, I do not mean to immediately dismiss the technocracy option if there are more compelling arguments for it. The question is, then, whether there are any circumstances under which such important decisions can be delegated to AI experts and technocracy. One final secondary question: even if we managed to get democratic input in the United States or even in Europe, AI will shape the lives of everyone on this planet. How do we ensure that the voice of nearly 6 billion people who don’t live in the US, Europe and China also contributes to the debates on AI?10d
Ethan Mollick@emollickThis is one of the most important questions of the age: Who decides what happens with AI? Daron makes the argument for much more democratic input into the process, despite the many challenges that entails.10d
Tim O'Reilly@timoreillyRT @DAcemogluMIT: Second question on AI. We are told repeatedly that AI is going to transform every aspect of our lives – jobs, productivi…10d
Seth Lazar@sethlazarI’d define the exception to the default differently, but I do agree that this should be the default.9d
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    David Krueger 🦥 ⏸️ ⏹️ ⏪@DavidSKruegerEager to see this11d
    Daron Acemoglu@DAcemogluMITSecond question on AI. We are told repeatedly that AI is going to transform every aspect of our lives – jobs, productivity, inequality, science, communication, daily activities, social order, and politics, among others. But this promise (or threat) is coupled with the rhetoric that such an important technology, with all of the risks and competitive pressures that it entails, should be left to experts or to “technocracy” (perhaps construed broadly to include some regulators). These two statements are hard to reconcile in a democratic society. If anything is half as important as AI is said to be (and I agree, AI is potentially very important and transformative), then involving democratic voice is essential. If something will shape our future in a democratic society, then its direction is for democratic institutions to decide. My instinct is that democratic voice is essential, and relying too much on technocracy could be both dangerous and counterproductive. The counterargument that AI’s direction can and should be entrusted to technocracy would go something along the following lines. First, democratic decision-making has become imperiled in our age of polarization. Second, AI is sufficiently complex that most citizens won’t have a deep enough understanding to meaningfully contribute to the debate (and even to the question of what we want from AI). Third, competition between different labs, and perhaps competition between the US and China, creates enough discipline for a socially beneficial direction of AI to be adopted. Fourth, today’s AI leaders are enlightened and ethical enough that within the framework created by competition, they can be broadly trusted. There are many aspects of this counterargument that I do not find convincing. Taking them in order: polarization can be overcome, and big decisions and challenges sometimes bring societies together; in fact, delegating key decisions to technocracy without democratic input may diminish trust in institutions and experts, and may worsen polarization. Second, democratic voice does not require citizens to write code or design new models; the debate should be informative enough that citizens can weigh in about what type of future they want and how they trade off the costs and benefits of different options. Third, competition doesn’t seem to be a good disciplining framework; on the contrary, competition sometimes brings the worst out of both organizations and people. Fourth, if three decades of work on political economy and institutions has taught me anything, it is that we should not bank on the ethical grounding of unconstrained leaders. But, still, I do not mean to immediately dismiss the technocracy option if there are more compelling arguments for it. The question is, then, whether there are any circumstances under which such important decisions can be delegated to AI experts and technocracy. One final secondary question: even if we managed to get democratic input in the United States or even in Europe, AI will shape the lives of everyone on this planet. How do we ensure that the voice of nearly 6 billion people who don’t live in the US, Europe and China also contributes to the debates on AI?10d
    Ethan Mollick@emollickThis is one of the most important questions of the age: Who decides what happens with AI? Daron makes the argument for much more democratic input into the process, despite the many challenges that entails.10d
    Tim O'Reilly@timoreillyRT @DAcemogluMIT: Second question on AI. We are told repeatedly that AI is going to transform every aspect of our lives – jobs, productivi…10d
    Seth Lazar@sethlazarI’d define the exception to the default differently, but I do agree that this should be the default.9d
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